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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
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Wyvern-shaped software developer and hobby vector artist.
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Age 30s
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
One thing I often notice with first-person views in TF art is that the way the muzzle (beak, whatever) obstructs the view is actually not how you would see it. Normally it's drawn in the center as an opaque blur, but my nose obstructs my view both on the left and on the right side semi-transparently. So it would be more right to have it there twice, but a bit shifted to the left/right and with the right perspective.
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
@gabu I can relate wvrnFlat
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
What's cool about my current project is that for the first time I feel like I understand what some art assignments at school were about. My art tends to be very literal, a direct reflection of reality and more recently my fantasy. I used to draw streets with houses, my room, objects, and now characters. There was no deeper meaning to it.
So I hated it whenever the teacher told us to draw something meaningful around a completely random color splotch, for instance. I never knew what to draw.

But I can see it now.
I want to transport the message that someone had transformed into a different creature. I want to replicate the feelings I had when reading the first chapter of Transliterated (the story I recommended a few days ago). I don't want to rely on crude tools such as an internal monologue or a textual narration, so that forces me to think about how to get the feelings across with the moments I show, the perspective, the art style, everything else I can use.
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
It's going to be an image sequence
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
So here's my rough plan. This genre needs good knowledge about anatomy, so at first I'll focus on abstract drawings that imply the transformation without showing the process (in detail). Turns out that by itself already is quite a challenge because you have to tell the story another way. It also gets me to try more immersive perspectives instead of the faraway one I usually do drgn_happy
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
@fudge_the_sphinx

I very much agree with you that mental abilities aren't inherent to specific species. Claiming our level of intelligence as human is the epitome of humanity's arrogance. The fact of the matter is that we simply can't know and have to rely on observations which will always be centered around our perspective, because we don't know anything else.

My perspective on this isn't to categorize mental aspects as human and nonhuman, but rather to assume the view of a neutral outsider and compare how much my actions and behaviors align with those of humans.
That's what I meant by "Animals don't sit in front of a computer and have discussions about identity and concepts": because they don't, at least not the way humans do.
I steer clear of any assumptions and just go by what's observable. And that gives me pretty good indications about whether I'm mentally closer to a species of animal or humans.

As for the desire to be an animal, my line of thinking is as follows:
Desire means to wish for a state that currently isn't true. If I want to drink water, it's because I'm thirsty and I want to enter a state where I'm not thirsty anymore. Similarly, I want to be an animal because my current existence is not being an animal. If I already were an animal, I wouldn't feel this desire. This is why to me it feels like an affirmation of my humanity.

The answer to this question generally doesn't really matter to me either. It only came up once I looked into alterhuman communities and saw them being characterized as "we all have nonhuman identities in common". Joining would force me to give an answer (not even to the community, but to myself), and then I have to know if I stand behind it.
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
Oh god, I have so many tabs of robot references for the synth wyvern neofox_googly_shocked
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
I'm regaining my motivation to draw and I'm thinking about trying something new again.
I'm a huge fan of transformation art and stories and I want to give a project like this a try at least once. I'm not sure about the specifics yet, whether it will be just one piece or a comic, and what exactly is depicted. There are lots of possibilities!
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
@puniko No neofox_googly_shocked
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
AI/ML, GenAI picture, starwars meme but dragony @anthropy I think it's a good response neofox_lul
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
What are you slapping me for, Puni wvrnScream
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
Sometimes I wonder if I should adopt language like "get my paws on something" instead of "get my hands on something". drgn__w_
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
I think this experiment has already done a lot to help me express my ideas better.

I was also hoping to make it an outlet for when I have these strong "I want to be an animal" moments, but talking about my identity mostly from an analytical perspective isn't really it. I don't even know if the things I would like to express can even be expressed. The limitations of language.
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
@foxovision Don't worry, I enjoyed our conversations so far drgn_heart
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
All of this kind of posting is exhausting, not gonna lie wvrnFlat
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
@foxovision

I get what you mean. I avoid categorizing mental abilities as inherently human or nonhuman and instead look at it from the perspective of a neutral outsider: How much do my actions and behaviors align with those of humans? The answer is very, even if I can handle animals better than humans and even though I feel different from all the people around me. I won't let my feelings cloud my judgement.

But yeah, in the end the answer to this question only matters to me when I have to stand behind the answer. And I wouldn't if I were to claim a nonhuman identity.
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
I keep revisiting this post because the mind aspect in particular is complex. I think I'm getting my point across better now.
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
@foxovision It's getting late here so I'll read your post properly tomorrow, but I just want to clear one thing up before I go. neofox_laugh_sweat

When I said "animal mind", the "animal" was intended to be a placeholder for the specific species someone identifies as, so in your case it would be a fox mind.
I understand that humans are as much animals as all the other, uh, animals.
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
@foxovision

I'm glad you liked my post.
drgn_happy I think not being particularly invested in any community places me in a very comfortable spot where I can discuss my views honestly without worrying about reactions of said communities.

There is no expectation on what fursonas can mean to somebody, so them "just" being roleplay characters isn't necessarily false. I say "just" because they still do reflect the person behind them, just less directly. I understand if you don't like it, but to me the positive side of this freedom far outweighs any cons since it also allows me to express myself freely.
When I thought about joining therian communities a long time ago, I always felt pressured on how to handle my "me" character. There was the expectation that everything is based on introspection and shifts, that you "discover" your character rather than create them, and so I reframed my identity to fit in. It felt like I was lying to myself.
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Volpeon (Bonus) wvrnFlat @volpi@icy.wyvern.rip
1y
@fudge_the_sphinx

I can relate, wearing a fursuit would be more about being an animal than anything else for me as well.
drgn_happy

In my case, outward appearance is pretty important to my self perception. There are so many small ways people's behavior towards you changes if they perceive you as a creature, and that acts as an affirmation that I
am that creature in a sense.
This mechanism actually applies to some other things for me. It explained a lot about my behavior once I realized it.
wvrnFlat

I think this also allows me to be more forgiving about not having a perfect sensory experience.

The idea with the sensors is super cool, though! As far as I know, the brain is pretty malleable when it comes to sensory input so I can easily see it make the fursuit feel like your body after a while.