@volpeon

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Wyvern-shaped software developer and hobby vector artist. Also sometimes a fluffy werewolf alien creature (Areon) or a bird (Corveon).

Creator of the neofoxes, neocats and other emojis.

Website https://volpeon.ink/

Speaking German, English

Age 30s

Pronouns he / him

Backup Account @volpeon@goto.wyvern.rip

Bonus Content @areon@icy.wyvern.rip

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

@vel Do you have a woozy rat emoji

@nilsding

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

@Stellar Ultimate freedom

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

Weekend :areonHype:

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

@hj Oh boy, that's going to be fun to handle with the WeakRef cache.

Thanks

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

I love those random comments in the code where he clearly instructed Copilot to do something, and it did that in the weirdest way and add a comment saying that it did what it was asked to do. Like

// const route = useRoute(); // removed useRoute call

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

@hj Whatever. The point is that I didn't do anything to explicitly keep them alive.

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

Note that I didn't mark the components with keep-alive. They're loaded asynchronously with import(), if that matters.

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

The data referenced in Vue routes directly won't be GCed after leaving the route. Does Vue Router keep the state alive for inactive routes?

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

I will give you an impression what a lot of components look like.

We have a store, which communicates with an MQTT server. It handles reading data from it and keeping it cached (with WeakRef) for faster access. I also added that MQTT subscriptions are handled on-demand to reduce traffic. This frontend is going to run on weak hardware, so we definitely want to do these optimizations.

Now what he did with a lot of components is:
- Reading the same data as the store.
- Implementing the reading imperatively rather than reactively.
- Implementing it with fancy stuff like timeouts, a delay based on whether the connection to the MQTT server is online, a weird router hook construct to make sure the reading does happen, etc.
- It's like 1000 LOC which could've been 1 had he used the store.
- And all of these unnecessarily lines exist in other components. He didn't implementing it in a shared file for easy re-use.

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

@wakame @vel Nächstes Mal vorher die SuFu benutzen. Hier ist erst mal zu. [/mod]

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

The neighbors are making weird noises again.

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

Leave the wyverns alone

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

@vel Woozy pandemic

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

Anime subtitle using "unalive" instead of "kill"

You stop right fucking there

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

One more fun thing. We have a store to load data and handle updates. It even has a caching mechanism to minimize requests.
The colleague? Loads everything as local state so the data exists multiple times in memory.

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

@icedquinn His contract isn't getting renewed this Summer

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

I also have another colleague who does the same, but he doesn't use Copilot. I can say this with absolute certainty.

Since the LLM is more likely to do that than the good solution, I guess this means most devs are like him. Cool

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

The code my colleague copiloted is so wild.

const tableItems = ref([]);

function updateTableItems() {
    tableItems.value = originalData.value.map(...);
}

watch(originalData, updateTableItems);

JUST USE FUCKING computed()

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

ngl I missed this kind of programming. Most applications I work on are pretty much just different frontends to insert, read and delete data from a database.

Volpeon

@volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

9mo

Who would've thought I'd have to think about memory management in a JS application?
(We use WeakRefs as cache and I have to make sure objects persist when they're needed in the current view)

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